Part One - The Hearth and the Salamander and Part Two - The Sieve and the Sand
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1. What are some of the things Montag now realizes about himself or society?
2. What are some similarities between the society in 451 and modern society?
3. "We must all be alike. Not everyone created equal as the Constitution says, but everyone made equal."
Is this possible? Do you agree or disagree? What has caused people to believe this concept?
2.) In todays society and in Fahrenheit 451 both hsve a government that try to only feed you the 'need to knows' and our citizens are well feed while over seas there shortages in everything.In addition, machines have been taking over the jobs of the average people for the past couple years. (ex: factors, nothing is really made by hand aymore.)"They had this machine. They had two machines, really" (Bradbury, 14). (1st hr, Westergaard)
ReplyDelete1) Society isn't exactly as safe and worry free as he thinks.
ReplyDelete2) We have gigantic televisions, books are banned in some places, and firemen still have fire trucks.
3) In their society everyone is not equal, often times it seems as if the firemen are actually safe keepers of books, even though they are supposed to destroy them.'
Michael K.
I'm anwsering question 1. Delaney Lytle
ReplyDeleteMontag sees his society at first as a great thing. He likes his job, his wife, and his whole life. "It never went away, that smile, it never went away, as long as he remembered." (Pg 4) Then he meets Clarisse one day and she changes his views on everything, like why are books burned, or why schools just give people the information instead of learning it themselves. Once he starts thinking about these things, Montag begins to wonder about the books he has stored in the air conditioning vent, and what they hold. When his wife's friends come over to watch a show on the parlor walls, they are talking about how much they hate their children and about how some of their husbands have died. Montag can't stand them so he pulls out a book and reads them a poem. Once he does this the women go into chaos and he says, "Go home and think about your husbands dieing and of how your kids hate your guts!" (Pg 101) Montag looks at these women as if he doesn't know them, even though he was just like them a week before. Montag wants to change things now that he knows that people like his wife's friends are out there and they don't know anything.
Question 1: Andrea Fox
ReplyDeleteMontag lives in a society where no one thinks. The government only wants people to do, and that's all. Montag is okay with this and "thinks" he's living a happy life, until he meets Clarisse. Clarisse is considered an outcast in this society because she's social, but according to Montag she's unique and she's the one that really makes Montag begin to question about the society he's living in. She asked him "Are you happy?" (57) This question really starts to burrow in Montag's head, and he realizes he's not happy. He realizes that his wife is completely satisfied with her "family", the seashells in her ears and her friends but doesn't really care for him. Then when Montag sees that old women willingly set her own house on fire because of her books, he comes to a realization that there's something more to books than what people believe. He also just wants to think to himself but realizes he can't with all the commotion, such as the advertisement on the train,the seashells, or the sound blasting from the parlor walls. And now, with reading all these books, he's realized that the society he lives in is robotic and he wants to take charge and think for himself for once and not have someone do it for him.
2. One similarity between our society and the books' is that they still vote for president in Fahrenheit 451. "I voted last election, same as everyone, and I laid it on the line for President Noble." (96) Another similarity is that their society still has lots of advertising like on the subway and billboards while you are in your car. "Have you seen the two hundred-foot-long billboards in the country beyond town?" (9) These are two similarities between our society and theirs.
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Question 1. Montag realizes that the society he is living in is different. He meets a girl named Clarisse that is very strange compared to everyone else. "I'm antisocial they say. I don't mix. It's so strange. I'm very social indeed"(pg. 29). Montag realizes the society he is living in is people don't think, no one thinks. People's time is filled with too much noise and images. No one has time to process any of it. Montag has no more values in the society. Montag realizes that he needs to gain more knowlege through the books and find away to help the society learn more. Period 1 Amanda Weber
ReplyDeletequestion one Jeanette Cecce 7th
ReplyDeleteMontag realizes that even though his society has banned books, people are willing to die for them. That some people are still willing to stand up for what they believe in, and live life the way they've always lived. He also realizes that maybe he needs to rethink the way his life is going since neither him or his wife can remember why they're married or how they even met.
We have everything we need to be happy, but we aren't happy. Something's missing. I looked around. The only thing I positively knew was gone was the books I'd burned in ten or twelve years. So I thought books might help.(82) In this quote you can tell that Montag is begining to question the laws of the society that he belong to, and that maybe these books really are worth dying for.
Question 1 - Mariah Von Bruenchenhein 7th
ReplyDeleteMostly at the beginning of the book, Montag questions himself because of the questions Clarisse McClellan asks him. Clarisse thinks, which intreges Montag. "Are you happy?" Clarisse asks (10). Montag laughs it off because he never really thought about his happiness. Montag also finds himself thinking about love when Clarisse asks him to rub dandelion under his chin. "If it rubs off, it means i'm in love..." (22). Montag finds himself confused when the dandelion doesn't rub off on his chin. Through out the book, Montag will find many new things about him just with the help of thinking.
2. Fahrenheit 451 and today's society has many similarities. One similarity is large televisions. We hang the largest T.V.s we can buy on our living room walls. In the book, they do not hang their T.V.s on walls...they are the walls. Just like the show Jersey shore, their shows are pointless too. Montage says, "Millie? Does the White Clown love you?" He is proving that her shows mean nothing. Another similarity is headphones. Many teenagers block out the rest of the world while they listen to their ipods through headphones. Montages wife uses something similar. To block out things in her life she uses sea shells, which play white noise in her head. Another similarity in our society is the lack of interest in books. Because of new technology, book store, like Boarders, have closed in our area. In the novel, books are not allowed at all.
ReplyDeletenicole w 7
2.One way the societies are similar is how the government is starting to turn the table in their direction and trying to make us conform to their ideology, along with censoring certain things out of our lives. Another similarity is that things that may have been considered dangerous and rare, such as suicide and murder, is becoming an everyday thing in both societies. Another similarity is that in our society, which is becoming more and more technologically advanced, individuals are demanding things to become faster and faster. In the the book everything is fast and readily available at the touch of a fingertip.
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Maggie Mason P. 1
ReplyDelete1. Montag realizes that Clarisse was normal and knew what she was talking about. She was the first person he had ever met in his world who had stopped to notice the dew on the grass. In the book Clarisse tells Montag that she is different than everyone else. "I'm antisocial they say. I don't mix. It's so strange, I'm very social indeed," (29). Montag now realizes that she is normal and was right about everything he had told her, and people such as Beatty were wrong. This may be why he killed Beatty on page 119 because he knew Beatty was wrong.
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ReplyDeleteSamantha Parfrey
In the beginning of the book, Montag seemed to love his life, loved his job, loved everything. Never had a worry in the world. Life seemed peaceful when you dont have to think. Then one night, he met this girl. Her name was Clarisse. She seemed strange to him because she was standing outside looking up at the sky just taking time to think. That was strange to him. She seemed to really know what she was talking about, but he had no clue.She was the first person he had ever met in his world who had stopped and took the time to think and spend time with the family and talk instead of being occupied by television. In the book Clarisse tells Montag that she is different than everyone else. "I'm antisocial they say. I don't mix. It's so strange, I'm very social indeed," (29). She was an outcast. School didnt teach anything but just watched tv. No thinking involved. Books were not allowed because it provided information, required thinking. that was a big no-no in this book. Clarisse gave Montag so much information and knew what she was talking about before she got "hit". Eventually Montag realized that she was right about everything and people like Beatty were wrong about everything. Books are not bad. There is nothing wrong with thinking and learning. This all could be why Montag had to kill Beatty on page 119. He knew Beatty was wrong in the end and said that Beatty deserved it.
1. Montag's perspective on himself began to change as he started to analyze his life. He realizes how he isn't happy with his life and how all individualism has been lost; "Had he ever seen a fireman that didn't have black hair, black brows, a fiery face, and a blue-steel shaved buy unshaven look? These men were all mirror images of himself!" (33). Montag also recognizes how his marriage has completely fallen apart. Neither Montag nor Millie can remember how they first met, and Montag realizes how the parlor walls mean more to Millie than her own husband does. "'Millie...Does your 'family' love you, love you very much, love you with all their heart and soul, Millie?' ...He felt he wanted to cry, but nothing would happen to his eyes or his mouth" (77). The end of this quote shows how hurt Montag is by Millie, but there's no point in trying to work through it.
ReplyDeleteQuetstion 2. One simalarity between our society and Farenheit 451 is that the Fireman still have firetrucks like our society today. Another similarity is that the technology in Farenheit is progressing rapidly by having the biggest T.V.'s which are the walls and we buy the biggest flatscreen instead of the old televisons from when they first came out.
ReplyDeleteDylan Dorfler P.7
Question 1: Cam K
ReplyDeleteAlthough Montag is a firefighter, after his run-in with Clarisse, he really starts to question himself. She asks him, "Are you happy?" (57) At first Montag laughs off the question. But later, he thinks back to his encounter with this "anti-social" girl, and about the question he asked her. He thinks for a while and convinces himself he really is not happy. This simple life they live just isn't enough for him. She also asked him if he was in love; which led him to thinking about his wife, but not about when they first met. The reason being he doesn't even remember! Montag wants more out of life and this censored society and the only way to do that is to break the law and challenge himself to read and understand literature.
1. Montag starts noticing that he doesnt like his society. and that his society has no feelings and is trying to make sure they dont. And just think that everything is okay. There shuting out there lives. Montag wants to change that. He doesnt want to be that society anymore.
ReplyDeleteKara Russell
Question 1
ReplyDeleteMontag is realizing his life is changing immensely. He's noticing all these changes along with the changes of other people and society. He isnt't happy with his life because he lost all of his inner self and has recognized his marriage has fallen apart. His wife loves parlor walls more than him and they can't even remember the day that they met. "....He felt like he wanted to cry, but nothing would happen to his eyes or mouth" (77). This quote shows the hurt Montag has because of his marriage and life falling apart.
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Q1 Matt Malecki
ReplyDeleteMontag starts to realize a change in society when he meets clarrise ad the fact that she is always wearing a happy expression and asks questions makes him wonder what her deal is, "It never went away, that smile it never went away, as long as he remembered " pg 4. The fact that a girl with a smile is an oddity shows that the society has changed.
Question 1)
ReplyDeleteMontag lives in a society where the people who live there only do exactly what the government tells them. The residents are not allowed to think on their own. In the beginning of the book, Montag thinks he is living the happiest life. He loves his job and where he lives, and the town's principles. However, one day Montag meets a girl named Clarisse who, by others, it portrayed as an outcast. She actually likes to and enjoys thinking, reading, and talking with others. People who live here are not used to people doing such things, because they are not allowed to. Montag realizes that he is not truly happy. He starts to read books and he sees what he's been missing all this time. He starts to realize that the town's rule about not being able to read is ridiculous. Clarisse makes him realize that he isn't happy with what he's doing; his job and his life with Millie.
1. What are some of the things Montag now realizes about himself or society?
ReplyDeleteMontag is now starting to realize changes in himself. After the meeting of Clarisse, Montag starts to think about feelings he is having, and what his life is really about. This change in Montag was brought about by Clarisse asking, "are you happy?" (pg 10) Montag replied with, "am i what?" (pg 10) This sent Montag into a deep thinking about what he now realizes about himself. He knows he is not happy with his life. Now he is determined to change!
Haylie Bray
Marshall 7th
Question 2
ReplyDeleteOne similarity is there is still people that want to read books. Another similarity is how Faber teaches montag how to read like a teacher would students
Mason Clark
Period 7
Question 1
ReplyDeleteIn the very beginning, Montag enjoyed life. He never stopped to think, but instead he just acted. Everything he believes is called into question when he meets Clarisse, the new girl next door. She asked Montag , “Are you happy?” (57). Montag realizes that nobody slows down or stops and thinks about whats going on around them. Everyone around is distracted by the gigantic parlor walls and their “families.” Montag realizes that there is something more to books then whay he thought, after watching the old woman burn to death, refusing to leave her books. Montag finally realizes that books allow people to think and come up with their own ideas.
Period 1
Question 1!!
ReplyDeleteMontag is starting to see that he does not fit in into his society. He is beggining to not enjoy life and he begins to see life at a different perspective, to feel. He meets a young girl named Clarisse and she is known to be "anti-social". But in our society today she is normal. The question that started Montags differences on life, was when he was asked ,"are you happy" by Clarisse (57). Montags whole perspective on life was changed by those three words.
Kara Russell/ Re due!!!
1.) Nicholas Drougas
ReplyDeleteMontag realized that he is far from normal in his society and doesnt want to follow te same trend as everyone else. He wants to be his own individual and become happy amd understanding of life. "Are you happy?" (57) This shows how montag is constantly questioning his happiness and others. He is not fit for the society he lives in.
Question 1:Jon Smith (period 1)
ReplyDeleteMontag notices that there are some people in his society that will fight or even die for their beliefs. He notices this when he receives the call for the old woman's house and she burns with her books. He realizes that he wants to be an individual and be like Clarisse,the old lady, and any other book readers. He doesn't want to be a follower, he wants to do what he feels is right. He goes to books as his "escape" from his dying society. "The only thing I positively knew was gone was the books I'd burned in ten or twelve years. So I thought books might help.(82)"
Question 1: Kara Coronado: period 1
ReplyDeletemontag realizes that he wants to be an individual and wants to think on his own. Montag also wants to know and understand what books are saying. "nobody listens any more. i can't talk to the walls because they're yelling a me. i can't talk to my wife; listens to the walls. i just want someone to hear what i have to say. and maybe if i talk long enough it'll make sense. and i want you to teach me to understand what i read. (82).